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so good afternoon everyone will come and be welcome to the Nicholas McConaughey's with a secane we had an awesome last year and I'm happy to have him back was a principal of an international school in Boston and also an isi inspector in the UK he's a professional certified coach and a professor at Warwick University and he's about to bring out a book with hoping I think next week which is cooled how to create a coaching culture in your school and I think he's going to face this talk a little bit on that book and we will make the link to the book available as soon as these puppies so straight over to Nicholas thank you very much that's great thanks Alan Brookhaven give me a thumbs up if you can hear me so I can say I'm pretty okay I've been teaching online most most of the day so I understand that you will get straightened out so I take half of that already high level review of the book how to create coaching coat in your school the books could always coaching and I'm so ashamed my screen now just will take you through a couple of the demand is not cool them how you can do that I think I might keep it in this mode so I can see people as well I could put it in full screen but I think this might be better I'm just so I can see people in and maybe see the chats as well so just in terms of who I am and I'm expecting a couple of things about me official said to find coach from the interview coach Federation so she confessed to the university for it while leaving in the international pdca which has been gone for years and now I know it's hard for me to principal I'm an inspector about me but this session coaching coaching with school and what I'd like to do is just give you a ride with you how you can do this and try and keep it quiet at school quite busy for you coaching coach yeah I think it's based around three dimensions and those two men that you can see here on this Slide the first one is fundamental second one is systemic and third one is transformative and within those three two minds we have these little something maybe they can stay in the fundamentals maybe have skills and application and systemic individual group and team then the transformative to me is a dialogue and why you're being so hopefully if you can stay on that open together it is a progressive Eeveelution and it's something that when put together you can could cry cuz you told you I saw him from that it was so any pollution in your own coaching but if you are interested in developing Gronkowski have to pay the people that you work with this is a pathway of a blueprint if you like time for you to be able to do that at the beginning of each to me I'll give it the definition of what she means a lot to me and then she diagrams around what your appetite around what it could be nice to me to the first one you can say this definition and I think it's from a guy that you had on actually I'm not Christian. Number is done some stuff with your coaching and you looking at Learning and Development Christian education you know and it's around questioning all the fundamental coaching skills we talked about it but in a second I find will have found using education mostly and ones which will look at it when we split it down and models that you may recognize well for the fundamental May 1st at the first bit of your coaching Eeveelution in the first step for you to get a coaching coach when your school in terms of coaching skills are underpinned by holding coaching skills not withholding in the holding a scale is a space where you you allowed to coach she will you allow the conversation to happen it's a safe space it's a space where people feel at Lake share things with you and I'm not making get things off my chest so the way that we do that for these coaching skills the questioning and listening to surprise you to the basic coaching skills and we're looking at questioning will come out August and I wrote that questioning album question scaling questioning the cruise on put on a scale of 1 to 10 10 being I love this weapon one thing is absolutely diabolical where do you currently sit well I think this is about 5:00 Nick okay fantastic so what I have to do to make it six or seven do you having those conversations that how you move people food listening to me always think of an active listening listening for who the person is not necessarily what the same and sometimes I'm not saying it's just as important as what they're saying most of us think of an inquiry in a meeting and waiting to jump in and give our side of the story and get going to give our opinion I mean inquiry stay just sitting back being a bit more I'm okay with the silence and giving people with space to Tool making sure that sounds very difficult situation. and I know you will. I do have to go the end of sizing is a big sale in my menstrual was obviously so you know you made him somebody where the energy is it sounds very difficult situation. I understand why you feeling that way must be very difficult for you then the acknowledging that so again you say I'm feeling quite stressed maybe a stressful experience the next stage looking at paraphrasing and summarizing the phrasing is saying the same thing in around the same amount but just what the cost of that summarizing looking at saying the same thing but in the short-term answer was they look at the pale-faces it wasn't hearing you say for example is this so you're always looking at the next station find what people are saying it's so important to clarify whether through coaching and conversation to really understand what people discussing what they want to talk about and finally forward in the action not come here and got goal setting in line what do we have to do going forward what you like to do what we have to focus on here what is the fundamental curtains cuz I seen them under and the bed by this holding the space that people can have coaching with his Within can I cut you process in a fundamental aspect for dinner it's in Fallout 4 say solution-focused in the fundamental 290 around it educational way and then you put it into action so that taxing after you do that then you monitoring things will how's it going maybe the next coaching session will see how that's gone and you evaluate sit if it's not where can you go back to developing an actual time setting goals and finally get the output which is his success an example of this could be identifying easy this could be around say a teacher having problems with assessment for learning in my class okay well maybe a what can we what can I go be around that going to go could be something like maybe engaging in a denim Williams inside the Black Box literature OK fantastic then I'm going to be looking at formative assessment in my lesson and maybe looking better well then maybe have a less motivation you monitor it evaluate the success hasn't been a success if it has fantastic move on so she can put out gyms in application of course talk to you tomorrow doesn't matter what you feel comfortable with I like this one by Peter Falk in the state of contraction and people generally done contract and coaching in education and it's one of the most important things to do so you met making sure that you've got the place is going to happen how you going to talk is it confidential when's the next one coming along all these things that I'm whatever it is contract in key to the listening and exploring so you just laying with that and I will be over the different options action again as I mentioned in the previous process and then the review I like the review in this is also looking at the review of how the in the session went to lie to the action but also I think it's about reviewing how the session was what was most helpful in this session what did you find most useful what didn't you do what can I do more about have more of an impact with you what should I do lasso the challenge I want to challenge you guys want food how should I go about doing it disease that you sucking it all the time and if you think I can depending on how you see if you think this is some of the conversation succumbed information reviewed Kate sentimental tonight and model space with its growth very positive what are the molten you use for catching input and output the onus is on you used to coach to get the set of skills is framed around being undirected in which case the clients with a person that you work with the coach she has all the answers not you they have all the answers and it's about ghosts finding solutions to fundamental to make the first step on your calculator and the one really do a lot of schools start with animal scooter get past nothing secret or anything but most was going to get past this the next thing I'm looking at is this just a nickname and this is the round looking outside of the one-to-one relationship to the engagement tonight since it's ready but let him to school to the dynamic engagement around the range of stakeholders in the school do you thinking about the community that you will commit in the context that you welcomed the coach is the relationships may be in the Departments across the school between senior leaders Etc and this is a really interesting stuff because we if you come pick it up anyway the patterns of behavior we sit back sometimes and watch you know how these things play out to the power than I was play outside in school so we department but we're looking at 3rd and furthering on broadening I reach first thing we need to look at what systems are play to the systems I think these are the ones that I seen most schools so the leadership of the state students teachers know teaching staff and Community key thing for me people get my taxes and non-teaching staff you know the admin stuff can I take is excetera excetera TA whatever it is none taken. Really really important the ones we can do that we can start to look at the individual send the code on the way you can do that it's a little cats and mapping so what will I do when I'm coaching so I had to teach you but wherever they are and you better than she can see them you can see the number one that's the head teacher said the is bad is that school number one is a headteacher now on this is blind can I get them to stop mapping themselves Laplace on this to get more systemic Outlook most authentic awareness do they put this white circle because I think the schools could you text me they put themselves quite near that trajectory and they put themselves pointing up his there a line to that where the school is going number two who is one of their Deputy had the deputy had that got pretty good relationship is quite hard Rock Hill so they sit below the principal has you can say that quite a line with what's going on I look at the three Saturday assistant had they got a couple of people who are at loggerheads here and that quite far away from the principal translate engage with the principal in these two people here you've also got somebody who thinks they actually above their prints on that basis and down on the principal and with the things are going and you can see the other one that he was kind of things that they closed the principal but the principles natsuki in the confidence of that intense is they think they're going to leave soon and not quite sure what's going on behind the scenes you can see I'm getting the principal to do this example it's time to think about different systems at play which is different to a one-to-one conversation that's individual suspended coach the group coaching message scope this medication message scope this is the process of an action running set group coaching in departments are old people who work together but that have a common purpose so come and goes you could be say the heads of Department of foster School each person has their own department but it kind of worked together Loosely the first of all about 6 headed to Paw go to the first person he's the only person I could be sales and headed mathematics Department in learning about the challenge this year could be I mean I am really struggling getting my report my organization at 11 having a real bad issues with parents and how to manage relationships for example then the rest of the group take it and turn use a coaching skills and to leverage that coaching skills asking about the issue to the clarifying that let you know that that was the using the coaching skills to understand the situation and it sends me the rest of the people. that one person only person who can explore a different auction in Lawrenceville the feedback in the code upset they then going straight back back into school today and I try these things out of the next actual earnings that they would like to they come back and they feedback what went well and how they're going to find a breakfast place on the action and then you start to rotate the set so the next session is the head of design and make him make it Coachmen the coaching each other you will be a building collapse relationship understanding and you building activities through recycle ready buddy effective group coaching in his stomach and finally we have seen coaching and this is looking through different lenses he's looking through an individual and interpersonal team task team relationships and the interfaces with people and in The Wider context to the team coaching is different to the group coaching the team coaching have the shed identity and shared purpose and a responsible for could you sing something the team in education could be a senior leadership team and maybe one of the things that I'm looking at is coming up with a mission or vision for the school so that will be responsible for that so that's a team did any of the coach. Look at the okay from Individual expected how does all about fit together how is that team working together what's the name of the powder that I was to play that then you look at the team test what's the weather today in this in the setting then we looking at Team relationships that might be that this team versus another team and other stakeholders in the school maybe around parent communities then you looking at how they work together and then you think about the wider context Teen Titans Go in a little bit more precipitation not see through these different lenses get to the Boston Opera writing and again it was things I'm talking about here could be a team could be a student council in a team could be a football season it could be a prefix or something it's just as well when you the team coaching it it doesn't and it's always I think better than initially with someone who's not in that setting so what I wouldn't say is if you do a head teacher trying to team coach that's it whether we like it or not just getting us an outside person initially needs to be schooled in the fundamental coaching to me to Cleveland Middle School if unitrust remembers it could be somebody else but they need to have a good time fundamental tonight because team coaches difficult in a one-to-one conversation we looking at a broad perspective look at the patents that play in a stool the Dynamics different stakeholders individually we can use things like my pink so people are more systemic awareness of what's going in in an institution action learning is the group chat connection wedding settings about working as a group with no shared purpose and the team coaching looking at Six Flags is a systemic team coaching how you access and unbilled effective change finally we have transformative to me and this really is is the fundamental denying the systemic 290 the apprenticeship into the transformative tonight and this is about skillful dialogic partnership in a Coke introspective and experimental space and Cody's engagement development and learning I'm glad you put up anybody spots on the difference here with being totally non-directive in the fundamental to mine is no questioning how to see it being impartial can you ever be impartial in a coaching relationship I would say no so it's about the coach having the trust of the past it working but I will take whatever it is I'm putting it has been since I was in and actually working in the space between and the space between is it here so we can always go what goes on in the world animes gots ourselves and the space in between it is it kind of connected with what's going on in the world and what we think and being challenged working at space at maybe we don't know what's going to happen if you think about. I look dialogue is ready cable this one cuz dialogue is not like a conversation I thought I look at you not know the outcome and I can be quite scary sometimes you haven't United International coach and you don't you know what's going to come of it it may not be set goals there may not be a set model it maybe 5 open ended it may even necessitate you doing in this space to actually be moving into and actually having to have your say something's case is much more nuanced once we have that a way of doing and a way of being so way of doing is a fundamental systemic and transformative skills at Coachman condesa a coach and presents a significant is getting better at the same way our way of being gets more so rather than being in it I'm a teacher that coaches I'm a coach in the same when you'd gotten that you work anyway I'm saying to Administration school starts up like being a teacher the next stages I match each age has been leadership the next stage is to teach you how to take a nap later and then cuz he attended his phone so that you can please tonight the more that your confidence and your new ones and you bet it's a new way of being comes and you feel that you are a coach know someone who's actually a t China the transformed into Maine East I look we're paying it's about dialogue in going to create the conditions conducive to that is about holding the space we looking for advocacy and crawling fruitful dialogue search less talk and sometimes more listening. See not being afraid to have your say in a coaching relationship it's about you being really really well the grounding be more presents and defining yourself and as a coach those fancy Evolution evolution of a school where you shipping individual through coaching so how to get a coaching coach. Let's put this together them say if we look at the different stakeholders in the school leadership student community. open teachers willing to engage one of those through the street to me once you've done that do you need to be looking at opportunities where you can activate the fundamental to mine now. doing you have in your Performance Management development the price of what I got to be using a coaching model can I be using some coats with the students conversations activating the systemic time to Maine maybe do it so you took it out maybe having some some some coaching coming in about group learning set and some team coaching looking at when you look at some of the Cities will the staff may be more systemic and the transformative I'm looking at really how do I look so you breaking down the barriers and models and everything and it's based purely on that really rich free full download if you can activate those through those five different stakeholder groups then you go couch and coach at Iowa. cousin coach if you just using the growth model in the school Immortals Immortals he has not invited so many different he look up the shut up I think it is it is a journey and you know it takes investment strategy what help is this coach in Union School start to connect together are you thinking about this membership is a case in point is not you know you are working together you put some Synergy that so you sharing practice so why can't you have actual earnings at the cross why Caillou has a stomach coach in a cross schools one count you I'm going to shout that he's across schools why can't you connect School councils across student and Coach with them and I think that's the coaching you and you start to connect to the people that I'm coaching the coaching coaching the school is widening in the next stage of that is this I was just about region about couple of schools about again the way that we do things in education that connecting the cross-continent the trust memberships excetera excetera in a lot of good stuff goes on a ready ride around that but I think it's it's it's it's really making sure that we are have a strategy and if you think about coaching culture to it in the stool need to have the same resource and approach to the other thing in the school Improvement is wet food down you got couple of people say okay, so what time coaching generally they haven't got the authority to push coaching through because it's just a I thought you don't get the resource say it again training us equities the time on the timetable to go and do it I think it's about really private eyes because you having it possible whole school development plan so it just runs in a 1080 do we just wait for everything that you do I want you to do that then you can start to talk about culture that's a very very high-level I'm going to talk about the way that I think you can get coaching coach as an aesthetic a book coming out next week so you can be able to get on Kendra on Amazon and I'll send Allen the link to to email out to everyone so it goes through this treatment and an excuse you I'm going to the mall information on how to learn that by your school I also talked about coaching my teacher going to coaching web leading to the street punks with the first part is what I just outlined today second part is that is how you can have a coach and we're teaching utilizing those three dimensions coaching and funny coaching with leading can you slice in the streets of names so it's what is its holding so that's kind of a high-level overview of that I put some references here for you if you want to have a little look at other things and I wish I could draw on a lot of research and Graphics is not in the book and its alleged something fixing to start with and I happened to ask answer any questions you've got em on that that's yes to the point you can't shop for you fantastic Nicholas I think I'm getting very emotional I think it's flhc exactly what you were talking about with the Griffin the team coaching you know we can support each other across these groups and schools and have someone from the outside I think now that that's a lot of potential here what I mean is applying this sort of coaching model or a coaching model it with the students we run out of leadership and Pressed Juicery made tents cry. Suppose before I go into the six phone because I run over there after education program I run it because they are they looking out to the kitchen and we had Christian band australiano in a school at the start of last year and I love that stuff I think 60 stuff to The Grove Country. I was asking I really am and then we saw a lot of pictures with it and all I was sort of looking at that in the context of if that's what teaching our senior students to be able to work with the younger students when they leaving and using more of a touching my motorized of them rather be just me and that's what we didn't leave and I just wonder what you think about that in the context of this is thanks to me that you looked at a moto coaching and other fundamental and then he should have gone up and asked a little bit and I want to watch think of the potential of avoiding contact with the students rather than you know we do all of this professional yes I think it comes back to the same sin approach if you're going to be using coach missed you. I need to have the coaching skills they need to be practicing so you start off with in the fundamental to match the growth coaching model great you know it's easy to use and is the growth model from 40 years ago do you hate do you know so it it's just want to research religious festival and the older kids are going to run it and actually make sure that like the resource and I restring time to do it what they could be doing against depends just in it and maybe more controversial is why couldn't I practice on the teachers exactly right of me we've had some great experiences with your text the high Rocky out of it and looked and and that certainly would and I left it is not a Performance Management conversation about saying anyways let's get these kids sometimes and stuff maybe I should maybe on that page and I think then you want to stress Aries are crazy but if they want to start using it elsewhere so they can get into quite robust thinking around yeah we can learn the skills. I think if we did do it it would give that be more continuity when I go away with the kids for a week and I have quite a significant one week experience but then you know if that was working with her a student that I wear adults are doing a regular meeting and I in a touching sort of model for the rest of the time I'm going to be quite profound Kentucky tomorrow well when it's a kind of a set time Ariel at the set meeting or something like that mean they're going to have no making with Lana and I think the issue with Moto sometimes and I seem to be at the doctor so I have a basic emotional but then they will get the confidence to stop makes it go off a little bit and then come back to it and I'm so I think it's like giving up with you in case of Cokes they need to be doing it out of how you going to structure can have a monthly net in a set time outside of baggage for a week what you can say all the suits II what are we going to be at and success criteria around this to use education throughout this week we're going to be asking certain questions dating question 3 times by the end of this week you know we're going to have some some feedback from the students and that's going to be based around you know everyone have in the road to Rouen, voice and really activation not listening to listening the movie saying about what the to do they are at appreciating people it could be about three or two times this week I'm going to make sure come late is an intelligent students that I'm going to clarify what the cheat just saying to Anna's and it said that they use in all these skills but this concert hall shop Target initially they feel giving it an instruction Harry and I miss you not to say okay how's the distance to clarify that then what you're asking us to do is do it it it it it it so that they give you they use the skills throughout the week and then the muzzle comes in in that car set time but my muscles are most like you said so they need to be using the skills that model is pointless do you have any examples of using a coaching model with you what are enough school to talk to Stage my coaching about getting it a is time is it because you can kind of think okay how you how you going to kind of give him some training around it and how you going to give me the opportunity to use it cuz every school trust you Independent Learning excetera excetera many many years what does it look like when that's happening and if it's if it's not going to happen in your school because you have another race or sometime is no point doing it and then that's fine it wasn't to do it stop something it doesn't go anyways just pieces out it just doesn't stereo and this is what we going to do so I continue to round it we have the time to do these latest training which is great and I think it'll be worth doing that and and then they have an opportunity to lead a group of students where they can then I think we have a setup way we could do it while we had two calls from Christian I was thinking along those lines but it would help to have you know I told Shane culture in the school first and always with all of the colors in the first place, an interesting one that Harry is what what you could do it I'm kind of going on to instructional coaching now it's just very Hot Topic in education at the gym nights but they have lots of cool looking at Playbook and what you could do for students. Wish you could have Banks of questions about the questions the scaffold that so you can say okay right we can do some coaching training and you know in the next week's when you look at if you want some questions around this little couple of examples if you want question. Was he given them to you teaching you go over the questions. You can have I need to ask a huge favor get hydro disordered thinking and they have such a book and then what could be quite nice is when the students leave the next one to come up then the students of come down the Playbook and they think they took it comes down to the thing that you do so it's in builds you may be waiting a long time for the school to get to that stage it could be that what you were doing ignites the coaching elsewhere why not get the students into the SLT meeting and saying this is we going to give you a little present Howard Hughes coaching and this is being is being leave it to give you. Training on how to use coaching in the department will we know the cost of a reasonable but why not my gym not kill the impact Cycles you talk about some stuff that's maybe get some ideas around that so I can get me to play through with the shooting play some guess who Maria put something about the active listening yeah I agree Marie we overdid it too and I include myself in that I think it's some it's difficult and I think it needs dying and it needs bringing into it running into the lights because how many times it doesn't mention before meetings or in staff meetings you know what you want to say and you just waiting for the opportunity to dive in there and say it because you just try having overtime try any visitors back to two teachers wasn't trying to sort of having say 10% less to okay and see what the impact of that is you know that could be any Department that could be in your butt It Whatever It Is call Lisa Kirby you know you outside of school I didn't be interesting cuz when I took out the systemic tonight and noticing things you don't notice things if you took the time she could have anywhere to sitting back and not saying I have some clarity Jenny do that by that she listening and I never met you before you know a big touch thing is listening and it's a educated especially we teach and teaching tokens were used to talk another time we used to delivering telling play I'll be out to tell him everything you all the time away so it's defaulting to do that something to be more aware of it it's got to come back a bit and so I can renew my my default to talk a lot, teaching is a second what would it look like okay I'm at 10% stop playing around with that a little bit very good question. But yeah I totally agree Justina going back to Harry's point in discussing it strikes me as skills under the fundamental level those seven skills how many feet could develop dollars in your students that would be incredible I mean if you look up most of the neathery closely related to what you're trying to do with things so I can choir eBay's letting you know they sent this is why I wrote a thinking skills and and rather than seeing this is something extra that we have to sit in cuz we all know that that's when Things fall down in school is when people see it as something extra is actually wife in a why don't we use this as the basis of a whole teaching and learning muscle and then at least as fundamental skills every lesson every day then you've already taken the first important step in creating a culture you know and then I'm thinking about the next levels you know that the systemic level from the perspective of a student on the Dynamics happen within a car you know in the cleats in the bullying and another group dynamics and when he put kissing you know until he used to work is going to work but then I do you know do you know what the name all of those things you know they are so closely related to what you've been talkin about and you know normally we have to wait until there's a really big problem in a car you know what to do an intervention and get the bowl to start offloading in opening and say what's going wrong rather than having that is you know just part of what we do and I'm not thinking back to has to be a mentor for BYT exhibition groups on a regular basis sit down and do a little reflection with them on how the process is going and insulting us now it's some similar to the process you were describing you know in the in the group for the team and and I don't think did it would be that difficult to sort of reframe the whole learning process in terms of you've described therein end it isn't that those levels of coaching and you know it would be absolutely amazing and just thinking about what's been happening for the last year in Ohio with kids having to be a lot more in the pan an elaborate different Dynamic where I mean okay to an extent some teachers still have but but standing up for the frontal King has not been an option A lot of the time I missed 121 and small group interaction absolutely I think it would be great it'll probably do some for the pilot project for the you know if they were schools within lahc that are interested in in exploring outside because I think it could really as you saying this in the final level it could really be transformative thank you I think it's interesting when I can and if you think about memberships letting you mentioned about online learning and no reason why action learning sets so you know there's no reason why she was a question membership student couldn't connect because I don't want any way depending on time zones do they cook connect across that special place in my things I'm glad that I could bring that challenges to the table with six for whatever at 6 and then they can coach each other on the kind of things are going through with the provision that can share Divine Soul each other then you swap out to think about weldings a big thing is nothing about sharing you know how you doing and being my husband all these things come to the fool the key thing for me is yes it can be embedded I think it needs to have a strategy to do that. do not forget needs to be they need to be somebody at the senior level who's going to be on it with with whoever is going to be in a growing a music teaching and learning group so it's becoming organic Outreach ultimately need someone I would have hired a high-level to be do that and a dimension a dimension your team coaching individual coach who was things you can do with students just as much as stopping the interesting thing is I'm talking to students and staff about White Oak to teachers about so it's it's a parent's account this is what we owe this year we're going to be looking at just some cartoon some questions while talking to do it instead this is what we doing in school we going to look into each other's and the question is a fundamental coaching skills it would invite you to stop to use these cuz you might find it beneficial to him as well start to get a systemic subculture in a school big cycle when we we introduced the Helix Journal so that students as I got through all of their extracurricular experiences and I brought them in a journal and the when are younger we collect it up and then give it back to them the next time we go on a trip or something like that and the frenzy when they're raining all the stuff that I've written previously that the leaders of the ones who do the guided reflection can we do a reflection of what makes a good team and tell me 10 10 tips and things like that so when they're in a cab when they're 10 years old that keeps Pedialyte run around the camp when it ages of the night raid what I wrote and I will always years ago and we had a meeting and we shed and we actually did while the reflections with a parent that was so profound let the parents we got on well that's really hit me and that's what you're doing with that kids most bought from them in a whole lot of different aspects of a gigantic and I also have the same for fanfic and especially you know perhaps help you do the introduction Adventures before high about Dynamic Supply in schools in difficult I mean to today I am I was just doing some teaching online with with trainee teachers train takes you to see how some of them are older than got some crates oh yeah really interesting M cross-section of people and these skills and coaching me on how to deliver online are you recognize and they work on putting me on the spot and it's not that bad but what made you do that. I was going through it with him about my thoughts and I thought I was looking at schools around that I find it very beneficial I think if you are still questioning me about why not how good I am at something nothing but questioning my rationale for doing certain things where I'm coming from and that's going to be held at learning something how to sculpt to do lots of exciting things but I think about the same thing I can get need a strategy it needs a Steering group with enough clouds and resource to be able to still do things that he thinks of me and the strategy needs to be weather for my strategy is needs to be similar to what you have on your internet plans because it's just as important as having said that you bleed into the way we do things around here which is coach with me rustic I think everybody's going to be rushing out to buy you a book sounds sounds like a lot of stuff in there that leads would be interested in Reading thank you so much and I was really really used thanks everybody for being here and dissipating so we'll have a great day everyone and and take care thanks everyone
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